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Thread Starter: PISCEAN 2010   Started: 11/19/2010 5:26 AM   Replies: 21

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  2/15/2011, 1:27 PM
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Hi Deep,
The breaker must be able to interrupt the maximum short-circuit current at the installation place.
To ensure this breaking capacity (Icu / Ics) has to be higher than the prospective short-circuit current.
So please select 50 kA for your application.
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  2/28/2011, 1:07 PM
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Hi Deep,
Breaking capacity of a protective device has to be higher than the prospective short-circuit current at the installation place.
If you haven't got a detailed calculation you should select at least 35 kA (more than 32,791 kA).
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Sentronix wrote:
Hi Deep,
Breaking capacity of a protective device has to be higher than the prospective short-circuit current at the installation place.
If you haven't got a detailed calculation you should select at least 35 kA (more than 32,791 kA).
Regards,
Sentronix


Hi Sentronix,
Thanks for your reply. I have a doubt, I may be wrong, but then please correct me.
My 1500 KVA transformer short circuit current capacity is 32,791A. If I select a protective device greater than this, of say 35 or 50KA capacity, then in case of multiple nos of such short circuit events over a long period of time might lead or results in failuer of transformer, or it will not afftect the performance & life of transformer.
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  3/18/2011, 4:41 PM
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Hi Deep,
I´m not an expert for transformers, but there certainly will be detailed requirements in the relevant standards.
On the other hand any short-circuit means stress for the devices in a network and in ideal case no short circuit should happen in a low-voltage system during its lifetime.
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Hi PISCEAN 2010

can you explain in detail your SLD till the Machine end.

your SLD should contain all the ratings whatever you have.

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Hi,
Please find enclosed here with SLD of one of the machine connected named as BETTS lathe. Main SFU is 630 A.
For any doubts or information if required, please revert back.

DEEP.

Attachment: SLD Betts lathe.pdf  (23 Downloads)

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Dear PISCEAN

Do you know the fault level at Transformer end

For example, if you are having a fault level of 50 kA means,

try to select the ABB (just in output side of transformer) also 50 kA

try to select the ABB (800 A at OLD shop) also 50 kA

try to select the ABB (800 A at OLD shop @ Power House) as 35 kA

try to select the 630A MCCB as 35 kA

Further downstreams are 20 kA, 10 kA and 6 kA so on.

it is clarified your doubt or kindly revert me.

 

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  5/23/2012, 10:42 AM
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BALASUBRAMANIAN wrote:

Dear PISCEAN

Do you know the fault level at Transformer end

For example, if you are having a fault level of 50 kA means,

try to select the ABB (just in output side of transformer) also 50 kA

try to select the ABB (800 A at OLD shop) also 50 kA

try to select the ABB (800 A at OLD shop @ Power House) as 35 kA

try to select the 630A MCCB as 35 kA

Further downstreams are 20 kA, 10 kA and 6 kA so on.

it is clarified your doubt or kindly revert me.




Hello,
I hope you must have read this complete post carefully. My question is how to select MCCB KA? I shall summaries the answers received here with for your ready reference.

1. Transformer short circuit current capacity, in my case is 35 KA.
2. So down the line MCCB with more than 35KA rating should be selected. (Please read the reply from Mr. Santronix, his quotes are as below.
Hi Deep,
The breaker must be able to interrupt the maximum short-circuit current at the installation place.
To ensure this breaking capacity (Icu / Ics) has to be higher than the prospective short-circuit current.
So please select 50 kA for your application.
Regards,
Sentronix
3. Now if I select MCCB more than 35 KA rating, then in this case after number of short circuits at various points during various time frequencies, doesn't it affect the transformer? Because in this case it is nothing but direct short circuit at trnsformer secondary?
So should I select MCCB with lower KA rating or higher rating?
Hope this helps you to understand my question.  

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  5/24/2012, 9:20 AM
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Hello PISCEAN

pl refer my example with respect your SLD layout in PDF format.

i guided you to select according to the short circuit level co-ordination only.

normally transformer end (source end) should have higher short circuit level - since, it is driving more connected load.

individual connected load (which are there in the down stream) should have the lower short circuit protection.

For example,

      Source (50 kA)

              !

              !

  Connected load - 1 (35 kA)

 

              !

              !

  Connected load - 2 (20 kA)

 

              !

              !

  Connected load - 3 (10 kA) etc.

 

 

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Hello,
I think you have not studied the enclosed SLD correctly. Please expaline me how can I select 10KA protection level at machine end (as per your suggestion) for connected load of 325 Kw, 3 phase load? (Betts lathe)

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