Hi ,

I’m have some doubt in getting data from Siemens hydroranger in my program. I’m working in AB platform and by using Prosoft module I’m getting data.The issue is while using the siemens hydrornager 200 as diffrential ultrasonic, we have using 2 transducer in different location. For this how can I get the diffrential reading whether I need to get 2 datas sepetatly or the reading comes from the instrument is the differential valve. Tell me how many Hyroranger can be connected by using smartlinx / how many transducer can be connected in a hydroranger. Clear my doubt’s and send me some samples for getting the data.

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1)  The HydroRanger will directly output a differential reading by selecting the appropriate code for a

parameter, as Toppie states.

2a)  The HydroRanger has native Modbus RTU and Modbus ASCII communications on either RS-232 or RS-485.   You do not need a SmartLinx card for Modbus.

INSTRUCTION MANUAL, 7ML19981FC05 HydroRanger 200, Page 5: 
- RS-232 running Modbus RTU and ASCII via RJ-11 connector
- RS-485 running Modbus RTU and ASCII via terminal blocks

2b) >AB platform and by using Prosoft module
What protocol does the Prosoft module run?   Modbus?  Profibus DP? DeviceNet?  Remote I/O?

2c) >how many Hyroranger can be connected by using smartlinx?

Ans:  Can't answer that without knowing which protocol the Smartlinx talks?  The Smartlinx setup will tell how many slave node addresses are available.

If you are not using Smartlinx, but are using the native serial ports in the HydroRanger 200, then
- RS-232 is point-to-point, so only one Modbus slave (one HydroRanger) is supported.
- RS-485 is multidrop.  The P771 parameter can take a value up to 9999.   Most RS-485 networks get pretty fussy with more than 16 devices.  For Modbus RTU over RS-485 the answer is empirical, depending on the robustness of your wired network and the throughput level that you can tolerate.

3) >how many transducer can be connected in a hydroranger?
Ans: two

4) >samples for getting the data.
Depends on which protocol you use.  For Modbus, the Prosoft module is the Modbus master; the

HydroRanger is the Modbus slave.  The HydroRanger is silent unless spoken to, it is passive.  It is up to the Modbus master to fetch data, or to write data.   So the "sample for getting data" is the responsibility of the Modbus master, not the slave.

Prosoft has a good reputation for supplying examples.  You need to consult the Prosoft manual

The Hydro's Modbus slave table starts on page 95 of the HydroRanger 200 manual.
The word format is a signed long integer, 8 bytes (two Modbus registers), ranging in value from -20000 to +20000.

1)  The HydroRanger will directly output a differential reading by selecting the appropriate code for a

parameter, as Toppie states.

2a)  The HydroRanger has native Modbus RTU and Modbus ASCII communications on either RS-232 or RS-485.   You do not need a SmartLinx card for Modbus.

INSTRUCTION MANUAL, 7ML19981FC05 HydroRanger 200, Page 5:  
- RS-232 running Modbus RTU and ASCII via RJ-11 connector
- RS-485 running Modbus RTU and ASCII via terminal blocks

2b) >AB platform and by using Prosoft module 
What protocol does the Prosoft module run?   Modbus?  Profibus DP? DeviceNet?  Remote I/O?

2c) >how many Hyroranger can be connected by using smartlinx?

Ans:  Can't answer that without knowing which protocol the Smartlinx talks?  The Smartlinx setup will tell how many slave node addresses are available.

If you are not using Smartlinx, but are using the native serial ports in the HydroRanger 200, then 
- RS-232 is point-to-point, so only one Modbus slave (one HydroRanger) is supported.
- RS-485 is multidrop.  The P771 parameter can take a value up to 9999.   Most RS-485 networks get pretty fussy with more than 16 devices.  For Modbus RTU over RS-485 the answer is empirical, depending on the robustness of your wired network and the throughput level that you can tolerate.

3) >how many transducer can be connected in a hydroranger?
Ans: two

4) >samples for getting the data.
Depends on which protocol you use.  For Modbus, the Prosoft module is the Modbus master; the

HydroRanger is the Modbus slave.  The HydroRanger is silent unless spoken to, it is passive.  It is up to the Modbus master to fetch data, or to write data.   So the "sample for getting data" is the responsibility of the Modbus master, not the slave.

Prosoft has a good reputation for supplying examples.  You need to consult the Prosoft manual

The Hydro's Modbus slave table starts on page 95 of the HydroRanger 200 manual.
The word format is a signed long integer, 8 bytes (two Modbus registers), ranging in value from -20000 to +20000.

Thanks for the reply.

1.I need to measure diffrential level for Rake control

2.I'm using Smartlinx.

3. In AB platform and by using Prosoft module- Protocol is Profibus.

4.If i using this for Rake control with differential control

If i give the following parameter setting where can i get the data while using smartlinx.

Parameter     Index     Valve    Description

P001   G 4 Operation-Differential

P002 G 1  Material- Liquid

P004  1,2 102 Transducer-xps-10

In Which Point of  smartlinx i can get  the  data?

How many hydroranger can be connected with one smartlinx?

How many transducer can be  connected with one hydroranger?

Regards,

Govindkumar A

Thanks for the reply.

1.I need to measure diffrential level for Rake control

2.I'm using Smartlinx.

3. In AB platform and by using Prosoft module- Protocol is Profibus.

4.If i using this for Rake control with differential control

If i give the following parameter setting where can i get the data while using smartlinx.

Parameter     Index     Valve    Description

P001   G 4 Operation-Differential

P002 G 1  Material- Liquid

P004  1,2 102 Transducer-xps-10

In Which Point of  smartlinx i can get  the  data?

How many hydroranger can be connected with one smartlinx?

How many transducer can be  connected with one hydroranger?

Regards,

Govindkumar A

1) In Which Point of  smartlinx i can get the  data?

The HydroRanger manual states:
"During differential or average operation (P001 = 4 /5), the display scrolls sequentially through Point Numbers 1, 2, and 3. Point 3 is the difference between (or average of) Points 1 and 2."

That infers that point 3 might be the differential measurement throughout the HydroRanger setup.

If you use 'direct' access method to read values, the Profibus SmartLinx manual has a Read Block table on page 31 pdf:

"Values in words 0 to 20, and word 41, are directly available: no write operation is required to request them."

"Words 1-10 are 'point reading' in 'direct' access mode, integer format"

"Words 1 to 10: Point Reading
These words contain the value of parameter P920 (Reading) for points 1 to 10,
respectively. The reading is expressed as a percent of full scale, multiplied by 100, giving a range of –20,000 to 20,000 which corresponds to –200.00% to 200.00%."

2) How many hydroranger can be connected with one smartlinx?

Each HydroRanger requires its own SmartLinx Profibus card. 
So, one HydroRanger for one SmartLinx card.

3)  How many transducer can be  connected with one hydroranger?

The HydroRanger 100 can handle one transducer.
The HydroRanger 200 can handle two transducers.

Only the HydroRanger 200 can do differential level with 2 transducers.

Dan