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Module/Interface Module removed/cannot be addressed

Thread Starter: AnilSangwan   Started: 4/27/2012 3:20 PM   Replies: 23

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  4/27/2012, 3:20 PM
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Dear All,

we are suffering problem due to sudden i/o card failure in some of remote panels.The detail of the log received from diagnostic buffer is as below.


Event 308 of 3000:  Event ID 16# 3961
Module/Interface Module removed/cannot be addressed
Actual type: ###79
System: S7-300
Station number:   17, DP master system ID:    2
Output address:    16
Further information: 11
Configurable
Requested OB: Remove/insert OB (OB83)
Priority class: 25
External error, Incoming event
07:34:18.422 AM  04/20/2012


  After receiving this error i/o card  went into SF mode and all signals drops to fail condition. further it is not happening to one particular card rather it happens to several cards.

  some time card gets reset by itself , some time by a gentle push and some times by removing and reinserting the card.

and after resetting that card the details received in diagnostic buffer are as under


Event 300 of 3000:  Event ID 16# 3861
Module/Interface Module inserted, module type ok
Actual type: ###79
System: S7-300
Station number:   17, DP master system ID:    2
Output address:    16
Further information: 11
Configurable
Requested OB: Remove/insert OB (OB83)
Priority class: 25
External error, Outgoing event
07:35:21.144 AM  04/20/2012

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  4/27/2012, 3:36 PM
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Hello Anil,

Can you Provied a Module No. Which was Faulty & probelm Started.blink

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  4/27/2012, 3:49 PM
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Ammy,

it is not a single module not even a single rack.it is happening in various modules and various racks also.
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Dear AnilSangwan,
Please reply which PLC Systems you are taking about?
S7-300 then Type of CPU?
And which Remote I/O u are using?



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  4/27/2012, 4:02 PM
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Hi,

What is your version of STEP7? Previous versions of STEP7 had a 'feature' in CPU that made modules passivate if there were any error on a channel. 

Later versions now have a parameter selection, passivate by module, or passivate by channel. It is my experience that passivate by channel is best.

Although, I imagine a 'push' on the module to fix this error would mean that the module is not currently set correctly. 

A module in passivate (non-failsafe) should come back after some time (auto reintegrates) as long as the channel error clears. (if failsafe, then after the error clears, an acknowledgement is necessary).

Cycling power on the module (by removing it from the rail as you describe) clears the memory of the module, and if it comes back into a good state, than the channel error has cleared.

Do you have wire break detection set for these modules? 

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  4/27/2012, 4:04 PM
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AnilSangwan wrote:
Ammy,

it is not a single module not even a single rack.it is happening in various modules and various racks also.


Hello Anil,

As per Your Above Diagnostic information DP Address no.17 Having the problem,

If you not Provied any detail then it is not easy to say anything, also we Want to like to know is anything Wrong Happend with System (Short Circuit, Earthing Problem), because without any Condition Module will not goes in to the Fault.

& you are saying Module Showing SF LED, Only few I/O module who Having Diagnostic Capbility is only having SF LED on it.

So Need Detail....blink

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I suggest you to check the wiring from field side if io cards are getting failed even after replacing the cards. Please check panel earthing. I mean power earthing/electronics earthing And now pl do not insert a new card to aviod further damage untill you get the solution.
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Ammy,

Thanks for your reply & sorry for delay from my side to reply.

Actually it is not happening to only 1 i/o module.rather it has happened to AI,Ao and DO cards.still we have not noticed any failure with any DI card.but can you please tell me what informations you require i mean card model,version etc.

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see info for OB83

Special considerations for S7-300

·    Central IO devices cannot be inserted and removed with S7-300.

·    With respect to distributed IO devices, . With all other S7-300 CPUs, there is an insert/remove interrupt only for 31x PN/DP CPUs, but then only for PROFINET IO components.

so programmatically you do not do it. look for errors in installation of modules, profibus or use S7-400-CPU



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AnilSangwan wrote:
Ammy,

Thanks for your reply & sorry for delay from my side to reply.

Actually it is not happening to only 1 i/o module.rather it has happened to AI,Ao and DO cards.still we have not noticed any failure with any DI card.but can you please tell me what informations you require i mean card model,version etc.

Regards
Anil Sangwan


Hello Anil,

This Detail are Required other wise not possible to tell you about your problem, As I have already Mention in my Prvoius post.

if you don't want then its upto you.....blink

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