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Thread Starter: ATA85   Started: 7/9/2012 3:15 PM   Replies: 10

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  7/9/2012, 3:15 PM
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Hi
I want configure a 840D pl system for 6 axes.
I buoght a PC card with order number :  6FC5250-0CY30-0AH0
I configure 5 axes but when i want configure 6th axis i get alarm :
8010 :  Option 'activation of more than %1 axes' not set

how can i activate NCU for 6 axes?
NCU type is : 6FC5357-0BB35-0AA0  (NCU 573.5)
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  7/10/2012, 6:03 AM
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Hello,
Please check the attached document. Have you obtained license for 6 axis from Siemens? Please contact your nearest RSC.

Attachment: NCK Alarm 8010.pdf  (38 Downloads)
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  7/11/2012, 6:08 AM
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Hello...

PCMCIA card looks like 6 axis export version...in your machine in Diagnosis > Service Display > Version> check the NCU version...

or in General MD 19100 --Num Axes --> 5 --> 6( Change the value to 6)

Hope this should work.

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  7/12/2012, 11:07 PM
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Thanks a lot PISCEAN 2010 and ekalavya
 Now i have configured 6 axes according to following list:
N10000 $MN_AXCONF_MACHAX_NAME_TAB[0]="XM1" ; 1-axis 80A in 1st slot N10000 $MN_AXCONF_MACHAX_NAME_TAB[1]="YM1" ; 1-axis 80A in 2nd slot
N10000 $MN_AXCONF_MACHAX_NAME_TAB[2]="YM1" ; 1-axis 80A in 3rd slot
N10000 $MN_AXCONF_MACHAX_NAME_TAB[4]="WM1" ; 1-axis 8A in 4th slot
N10000 $MN_AXCONF_MACHAX_NAME_TAB[5]="A" ; 2-axis 25A in 5th slot
N10000 $MN_AXCONF_MACHAX_NAME_TAB[6]="C" ; 2-axis 25A in 5th slot

N20050 $MC_AXCONF_GEOAX_ASSIGN_TAB[0]=1
N20050 $MC_AXCONF_GEOAX_ASSIGN_TAB[1]=2
N20050 $MC_AXCONF_GEOAX_ASSIGN_TAB[2]=3
N20060 $AXCONF_GEOAX_NAME_TAB[0]=X
N20060 $AXCONF_GEOAX_NAME_TAB[1]=Y
N20060 $AXCONF_GEOAX_NAME_TAB[2]=Z

N20070 $MC_AXCONF_MACHAX_USED[0]=1   ,  30130[0]=1
N20070 $MC_AXCONF_MACHAX_USED[1]=2   ,  30130[1]=2
N20070 $MC_AXCONF_MACHAX_USED[2]=3   ,  30130[2]=3
N20070 $MC_AXCONF_MACHAX_USED[3]=4   ,  30130[3]=4
N20070 $MC_AXCONF_MACHAX_USED[4]=5   ,  30130[4]=5
N20070 $MC_AXCONF_MACHAX_USED[5]=6   ,  30130[5]=6

N20080 $MC_AXCONF_CHANAX_NAME_TAB[0]="X1"
N20080 $MC_AXCONF_CHANAX_NAME_TAB[1]="Y1"
N20080 $MC_AXCONF_CHANAX_NAME_TAB[2]="Z1"
N20080 $MC_AXCONF_CHANAX_NAME_TAB[3]="W1"
N20080 $MC_AXCONF_CHANAX_NAME_TAB[4]="A1"
N20080 $MC_AXCONF_CHANAX_NAME_TAB[5]="C1"

N30130 (CTRLOUT_TYPE) for all axes is defined 0

But i receive following alarm for 6 axes:
 300010 : Axis %1 drive %2 active without NC axis assignment
How should i assignmet axes to NC axis?
Best regards.
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  7/13/2012, 5:53 AM
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Hello...

Once you Configure your General MD and Channel MD you need to Configure your Drive Configuration.

After this you need to look in to the parameter in Axis MD

If it look at the parameter
30110 CTRLOUT_MODULE_NR [n]Setpoint assignment: Drive number/module no (ex: X=1,y=2,z=3) this informations will automatically no need to enter...
30130  CTRLOUT_TYPE [n]: 1 ... Output type of setpoint  should be 1 for all the axis....
30240 ENC_TYPE [n]: 0   Type of actual value sensing (actual position value)
                                   0: Simulation, 1: Raw signal generator, high resolution                                                                                            4: Absolute encoder with EnDat interface

Check this...it should work...

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  7/13/2012, 9:46 AM
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ATA85 wrote:
Thanks a lot PISCEAN 2010 and ekalavya
 Now i have configured 6 axes according to following list:
N10000 $MN_AXCONF_MACHAX_NAME_TAB[0]="XM1" ; 1-axis 80A in 1st slot
N10000 $MN_AXCONF_MACHAX_NAME_TAB[1]="YM1" ; 1-axis 80A in 2nd slot
N10000 $MN_AXCONF_MACHAX_NAME_TAB[2]="YM1" ; 1-axis 80A in 3rd slot
N10000 $MN_AXCONF_MACHAX_NAME_TAB[4]="WM1" ; 1-axis 8A in 4th slot
N10000 $MN_AXCONF_MACHAX_NAME_TAB[5]="A" ; 2-axis 25A in 5th slot
N10000 $MN_AXCONF_MACHAX_NAME_TAB[6]="C" ; 2-axis 25A in 5th slot

N20050 $MC_AXCONF_GEOAX_ASSIGN_TAB[0]=1
N20050 $MC_AXCONF_GEOAX_ASSIGN_TAB[1]=2
N20050 $MC_AXCONF_GEOAX_ASSIGN_TAB[2]=3
N20060 $AXCONF_GEOAX_NAME_TAB[0]=X
N20060 $AXCONF_GEOAX_NAME_TAB[1]=Y
N20060 $AXCONF_GEOAX_NAME_TAB[2]=Z

N20070 $MC_AXCONF_MACHAX_USED[0]=1   ,  30130[0]=1
N20070 $MC_AXCONF_MACHAX_USED[1]=2   ,  30130[1]=2
N20070 $MC_AXCONF_MACHAX_USED[2]=3   ,  30130[2]=3
N20070 $MC_AXCONF_MACHAX_USED[3]=4   ,  30130[3]=4
N20070 $MC_AXCONF_MACHAX_USED[4]=5   ,  30130[4]=5
N20070 $MC_AXCONF_MACHAX_USED[5]=6   ,  30130[5]=6

N20080 $MC_AXCONF_CHANAX_NAME_TAB[0]="X1"
N20080 $MC_AXCONF_CHANAX_NAME_TAB[1]="Y1"
N20080 $MC_AXCONF_CHANAX_NAME_TAB[2]="Z1"
N20080 $MC_AXCONF_CHANAX_NAME_TAB[3]="W1"
N20080 $MC_AXCONF_CHANAX_NAME_TAB[4]="A1"
N20080 $MC_AXCONF_CHANAX_NAME_TAB[5]="C1"

N30130 (CTRLOUT_TYPE) for all axes is defined 0

But i receive following alarm for 6 axes:
 300010 : Axis %1 drive %2 active without NC axis assignment
How should i assignmet axes to NC axis?
Best regards.

Hi
It is only here that you've mistake
N10000 $MN_AXCONF_MACHAX_NAME_TAB[1]="YM1"
N10000 $MN_AXCONF_MACHAX_NAME_TAB[2]="YM1"
or also on the machine?
Good luck
Nit



=== Edited by Nit @ 7/17/2012 5:05 PM [GMT ] ===
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  7/17/2012, 4:18 PM
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Thank you every body.
Now after configuring axes , i want to configure the drive parameters.
When i define motors( and encoder) in motor selection after
save boot file then NCK reset No motors value at related parameters is
defined ( e.g 1400)
What 's problem?
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  7/19/2012, 8:04 PM
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ATA85 wrote:
Thank you every body.
Now after configuring axes , i want to configure the drive parameters.
When i define motors( and encoder) in motor selection after
save boot file then NCK reset No motors value at related parameters is
defined ( e.g 1400)
What 's problem?
Thanks.


Could you provide us the error no and the description?
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  7/20/2012, 10:22 AM
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Hi.
Thank you Ekalavya
In fact i want set six motors using motor selection screen
that all of them have incremental encoder(1FK7085-1AF71-1AH0,1FK7033-7AK71-1AH0)
Because the motors (and encoders) connect to drive in another city.
Now no motors cable and no encoder cable connect to drives.
Can i configure motors in such a situation?

Anyway ...
As configuring the motor(start-up\machine data\drive config\motor controller\motor selection)
,if the encoder is chosen as a type of incremental
first i receive message "MDX117 The value 0 was entered for moment of inertia"
after saving boot file and NCK reset, When I look at parameters of drive,
i see that all of them are not set.(e.g: MD1400=0(MOTOR_RATED_SPEED) ,
MD1104=0 (MOTOR_MAX_CURRENT and etc) , (In fact motor not defined)
and i recive alarm 300732(Axis %1 drive %2 rated speed less than or equal to zero)
that is completely clear.
But when i set the encoder as absolute the motor parameters are defined correct.
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  7/20/2012, 1:22 PM
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Hello,
from your post, we understood following points.
1. You want to configuer the system without actual connecting motor & encoder.
2. While doing so, when you configuer encoder as incremental, you get alarm as well as motor rated parameters like current etc are not displayed. On the other side, if encoder is configuered as absolute, no alarm is displyed & motor parameters are visible in apropriate parameter numbers.
Is this true?
Now I presume it is as true, the reply is as below.
1. Without actual connection of motor & encoder, the system cannot be configuered.
2. I wonder about point no 2, how this could happen?
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